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Posted: Jan 14 2008 at 8:40am | IP Logged Quote lynchmv

I noticed yesterday while filling up my '07 Frontier ($60 worth, ugh!) that the gas pumps in Columbus, GA now state that all grades have 10% ethanol added to the gas. 

Does anyone know how this will affect performance?   Mainly in relation to gas mileage.  I've been keeping good tabs on my mileage (thanks to P-Fuel on my Treo 650).  Over the past 10 months:

I've spent: $1,858.57 on gas
Avg amt per day:  $5.82
Avg distance per tank:  326 miles
Average days between refills:  8.6
Max distance per tank:  366 miles
Average gas price:  $2.761/gallon
Average cost per mile:  $0.154
Average cost per full tank: $50.232
Average MPG:  18.01 (mixed city/highway almost 50/50)

I haven't read much on the effects of ethanol on mileage, but it looks like I'll have to and hopefully it will have positive results, but I'll have to read up on that.


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Posted: Jan 14 2008 at 2:43pm | IP Logged Quote lakota

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The answer is less power and less mileage!

Ethanol has less BTUs per gallon than gasoline. BTUs equal heat and heat equals power. 10 percent Ethanol and E-85 do not have the power of gasoline. Even10 percent Ethanol can damage many types of plastics and metals in vehicles that are not set up for it. E-85 vehicles have stainless steel tanks and other components.

Why is it that the politicians in D.C. are the only ones that don’t know there are better things to make Ethanol out of than corn?… Answer… They know! They know! Guess why they don’t correct the problem.

Have a good one while you can still laugh about it.. Don S..

Laws such as the use of corn ethanol are driving up the cost of living (have you been to the grocery store lately) without driving up wages. This equates to a lower standard of living thanks to Agro-lobbyists and corrupt and/or ill-informed lawmakers.


 



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Posted: Mar 12 2008 at 11:38pm | IP Logged Quote dannyg

dannyg here now can my 06 fronter run on e85 wen it hits gas pumps btw its an 4.0 auto truck thans for any help sorrry i know this is an old post

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Posted: Mar 14 2008 at 9:25pm | IP Logged Quote paris1

dannyg wrote:
dannyg here now can my 06 fronter run on e85 wen it hits gas pumps btw its an 4.0 auto truck thans for any help sorrry i know this is an old post

Absolutely not! No Nissan products are e85 compatible.

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Posted: Mar 15 2008 at 6:02am | IP Logged Quote Boomer

Paris1 is CORRECT!  E-85 run through a vehicle not designed to handle it will cause MAJOR problems.  Parts can corrode badly unless they are made of stainless steel or other resistant materials.  Nissan Fropntiers are NOT BUILT to handle E-85.

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Posted: Mar 17 2008 at 9:48am | IP Logged Quote dannyg

dannyg sayd thanks for the info next road trip i take i will try to research which station sell regular gas thanks and i`ll start reading the fuel pump before i fill up once more thanks for the info

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Posted: Mar 22 2008 at 1:56pm | IP Logged Quote Nismology

New york has had ethanol in its gas for a while now. You cant tell me thats its gonna ruin an engine...if it did, they wouldnt be selling the cars same cars here that they do in georgia. i dont think it makes that much of a difference with the exception of its effect on performance
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Posted: Mar 23 2008 at 9:10am | IP Logged Quote Boomer

Nismology, 10% ethanol is OK; it won't affect engine longevity.  But 85% ethanol (E-85) requires special gaskets and metals to be used to prevent gasket failure and corrosion of metals.  That is why at GM, for example, the E-85 use is a special option.  When those vehicles are built, they receive different gaskets and parts that are exposed to ethanol are made of different metals.  These upgrades will also hold gasoline but they are more expensive, so right now you have to pay extra to have a vehicle that is E-85 compatible.

 

Ethanol is being used for two reasons.  It replaces MTBE which was added to increase the octane rating of gasoline (ethanol has a very high octane rating on its own) and also ethanol can be cheaper than gasoline on a volume basis.

 

So use the 10% ethanol in gas but don't use E-85.



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