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Boomer Senior Member

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Posted: Aug 16 2012 at 8:02am | IP Logged
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I have not posted on here for a while as things have been a little hectic. But now I have a Frontier problem. My key broke at the top and fell off my key ring. So I took the second key my wife had and found that it would not start the truck! I went to the dealer and they could not reprogram the key. They even tried a new key but could not get one to reprogram either. They said they were stumped. I left the truck with them to see if they could figure this out.
I definitely need a new key and wanted to know if anyone on here has any ideas.
__________________ 2007 Nissan Frontier SE 4X4
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2003 Saturn L-300 sedan
2013 VW Passat TDI
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Posted: Aug 17 2012 at 8:48am | IP Logged
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Well.....the problem to my keys had quite a simple solution. After spending another hour on my truck, the dealer found that it was their computer that was bad!!! After using a different computer, there was no problem at all in doing what I wanted. The dealer kicked in two free oil filters for my inconvenience. I have been very happy with the way I am treated at the dealer here in State College, PA and wouldcertainly recommend this dealer to anyone.
__________________ 2007 Nissan Frontier SE 4X4
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2003 Saturn L-300 sedan
2013 VW Passat TDI
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Posted: Aug 17 2012 at 12:06pm | IP Logged
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Sure glad it worked out for you!!!
With maybe the exception of hydraulic brakes & steering I like direct mechanical connections and the old simple ways. I guess I should say I believe computers are being over used. Our ‘08 Camry has throttle by wire and it sucks do to relayed reaction. The automatic transmission is computerized and sucks with delayed response.
Our 1976 GM TH-400 automatic transmission shifted perfectly for the 38 years we had it and it was a 5000 lb v-8 4x4 that was worked hard and put up wet. Computers made fuel injection possible but is only marginally better than a good properly maintained carburetor. I wonder what percentage of modern automotive repair bills caused purely by computer sensors.
In the old days you could go to any hardware store and get a new key made for a quarter. Now you have to burn five dollars worth of gas to even find a hardware store! </rant>
Have a good One.. Don S..
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'76 4x4 401 Wagoneer QT
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Posted: Aug 18 2012 at 6:04am | IP Logged
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Don, could not agree with you more! I'll be 65 in a few months and remember fondly those little doors on the side of a vehicle that opened when you pulled a cable and fresh air blew over your legs and feet. It broke? Buy and install a cheap cable. Now all the air is computer controlled with little motors and if one goes, it costs a fortune to fix.
I have had my Frony 5 years and really like it. The drive by wire works perfectly and the trans shifts quite well. But I shudder tothink of the cost of potential repairs!
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2003 Saturn L-300 sedan
2013 VW Passat TDI
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Posted: Aug 18 2012 at 10:47pm | IP Logged
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Boomer:
My first car was built when I was six years old. The "Air Conditioner” vent (open in the photo) was not computer controlled. The Plymouth was also well equipped with a hand throttle, choke, wing windows, a right and a left hood opening and the battery and master brake cylinder were under the floorboard. I traded in when it had about 88,000 miles on it. It would get 24 miles per gallon and gasoline was 17 cents a gallon.
Brand new it had cost my Uncle $840.00. The sales tax on our (when new) 2008 Camry was twice that much!
BTW… I’m not going to say I’m old but the photo was taken when you were born.
Have a good one.. Don S..
__________________ PLEASE >>> A SIG similar to mine can be VERY HELPFUL to all the members!
'99 4x4 3.3 Frontier Se KC Auto, 48,000 miles
'76 4x4 401 Wagoneer QT
'04 FWD 1.8 Sentra '08 FWD 2.4 Camry LE
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Posted: Aug 19 2012 at 6:21am | IP Logged
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Great photo! My first car was a 1958 Chevy that I bought from a farmer for $100. It was a three speed on the column and I drove it for two years and sold it for parts for $50 at the end of those two years.
I remember back in the mid-1950's when my father threw a fit over the price of home heating oil. It went from $0.05 a gallon to $0.06 a gallon! That was a huge increase and he was just livid. My son just paid about $3.50 or so a gallon.
Cheapest gasoline I ever purchased was in the early party of 1971. A friend and I drove from Champaign, Illinois to western Tennessee. I got gas at a Mobil station where the price was 6 gallons for $1 regular and 5 gallons for $1 hi-test. Since I was driving a VW at the time , my trip down there cost about $2!! Even a poor graduate student like me could afford that.
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2003 Saturn L-300 sedan
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Posted: Aug 19 2012 at 10:57am | IP Logged
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Those ‘58 Chevy’s were not to popular at the time (no finns) but I almost bought a used ‘58 Nomad wagon. That Nomad would worth a ton today. I bought that ’40 Plymouth when I was 13.5 and drove it from Rock Island Ill. To St. Louis then two months later drove it to Ft. Worth Tx all by myself. A couple of months later when I was 14 I got my first drivers license.
The most challenging old car to drive was a Ford model T. The three peddles on the floor were not a throttle brake or clutch like modern cars. The throttle and spark advance were on the steering wheel. They didn’t have a water pump or a fuel pump and had an up-draft carburetor.
Have a cool one.. Don S..
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'99 4x4 3.3 Frontier Se KC Auto, 48,000 miles
'76 4x4 401 Wagoneer QT
'04 FWD 1.8 Sentra '08 FWD 2.4 Camry LE
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Posted: Aug 19 2012 at 2:45pm | IP Logged
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I conceded to the master!!! Never drove a T. Earliest family car I can remeber was from about 1952 when the old man had a late 40's Studebaker. I remeber on thing about it (two actually). It was a hideous shade of green and it RATTLED like you wouldn't believe.
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2003 Saturn L-300 sedan
2013 VW Passat TDI
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